Locate the Prologue of Romeo and Juliet, "Two Blushing Pilgrims"(I.5), and Sonnet 73. Mark them to show your analysis and discussion of which form they take.
the three are all very simialar. I have noticed that much of the same things are repeated in each one and concluded that they are all sonnets. i confess i am a little confused about this and dont understand so i tried my best.
Alissa Clement English 1 5th period W. Rodrigue 23 November 2013
The prologue of each of these have a purpose to the whole form of the story or things it stands for. They each have a certain meaning and tell the story of each one without even reading it. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, it tells how the story contains star-crossed lovers and so you knew that tradegy was gonna come in the story. This is also what the prolougues for the other stories do.
Destiny Hotard English 1 5th Rodrigue 23, November 2013
Each of these tell their own separate story, important to the author themselves. Just like in Romeo and Juliet's prologue, how Shakespeare said there will be tragedy, it means that love hurts and is not always the greatest thing but it can do great things. Each of the sonnets tell a separate story with a separate meaning to teach a different lesson. They either foreshadow something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, the side that's never told. (I'll be honest in saying I didn't completely understand this one.)
Jillian Landry English 1 5th period Rodrigue 24 November 2013
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is a Shakespearean sonnet. It is divided up by the first four lines, the second four lines, the third four lines, and the last two. It tells you that the setting of the book is Verona, that Romeo and Juliet are star-crossed lovers, and that they will both die at the end. Sonnet 73 is also a Shakespearean sonnet that is divided up where the first four lines are a sentence, the second four lines are a sentence, the third four lines are a sentence, and the last two lines are a sentence.
The Blushing Pilgrims scene is basically regection. But of course Romeo gets his way. In both things required to read, I noticed that they're very similar. I didn't understand what to do with this topic very well, I hope it's acceptable to say that.
Caitlyn Rodrigue English 1: 5th period W. Rodrigue 24 November, 2013
The prologue basically tells you about the setting and plot of the story in a sonnet. Each few lines is an act in the play, telling you what's going to be happening for the "star-crossed lovers", Romeo and Juliet. (Honestly, I didn't truly understand the exact answer you'd have wanted.)
Katie Landry English 1-5th Period W. Rodrigue 24 November 2013
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet, "Two Blushing Pilgrims"(1.5), and Sonnet 73 all have things in common. The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is set up by three sets of four lines then one set of two lines. The prologue from Romeo and Juliet foreshadows the entire play, using the term star-crossed lovers. It is basically saying the Romeo and Juliet were not destined to match up, and the play will end in tragedy. "Two Blushing Pilgrims"(1.5) is not set up the same way as the prologue of Romeo and Juliet, it is a conversation between Romeo and Juliet. It is the beginning of Romeo and Juliet's relationship, and is the scene where they have their first kiss. This scene goes hand and hand with the prologue of Romeo and Juliet because it is foreshadowed in it. Sonnet 73 is set up the same way as Romeo and Juliet. This sonnet is similar to the prologue of Romeo and Juliet because it foreshadows in the same way. It speaks about death, love, and how they tie in together. All three of these are similar.
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is basically a brief overview of the play. It is an example of foreshadowing. "Two Blushing Pilgrims" (1.5) is a part of the play Romeo and Juliet. It's the first time they converse with one another. Sonnet 73 is more related to The Prologue than to "Two Blushing Pilgrims." Sonnet 73 foreshadows the theme of "aging." (If we're being honest, I have no idea of what the question is for this topic. I had some trouble understanding it.)
Lexi Bourgeois English 1-5th Period Rodrigue 24 November 2013
Although they are all three different stories discussed, they are very similar due to them being sonnets. Romeo and Juliet especially due to the prologue describing them being star-crossed lovers who will eventually die for each other because if one dies, they both should. All of them provide the plots and setting which also include foreshadowing and flashbacks of events that will happen or have happened. All three stories teach lessons through their themes. Therefore, they are all three very similar.
PROLOGUE Two households, both alike in dignity, In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. From forth the fatal loins of these two foes A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; Whole misadventured piteous overthrows Do with their death bury their parents' strife. The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, And the continuance of their parents' rage, Which, but their children's end, nought could remove, Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage; The which if you with patient ears attend, What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.
Sonnet 73- “That time of year thou mayst in me behold When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang Upon those boughs which shake against the cold, Bare ruined choirs, where late the sweet birds sang. In me thou see'st the twilight of such day As after sunset fadeth in the west; Which by and by black night doth take away, Death's second self, that seals up all in rest. In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire, That on the ashes of his youth doth lie, As the death-bed, whereon it must expire, Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by. This thou perceiv'st, which makes thy love more strong, To love that well, which thou must leave ere long.”
ACT 1- Scene 5 ROMEO [To JULIET.] If I profane with my unworthiest hand This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this: My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss.
JULIET - Good pilgrim, you do wrong your hand too much, Which mannerly devotion shows in this; For saints have hands that pilgrims' hands do touch, And palm to palm is holy palmers' kiss.
ROMEO - Have not saints lips, and holy palmers too?
JULIET - Ay, pilgrim, lips that they must use in prayer.
ROMEO - O, then, dear saint, let lips do what hands do; They pray — grant thou, lest faith turn to despair.
JULIET - Saints do not move, though grant for prayers' sake.
ROMEO - Then move not, while my prayer's effect I take. [Kisses her.]
In Romeo and Juliet… the prologue, “Two Blushing Pilgrims”, and Sonnet 73, they are both Shakespeare’s sonnets. Shakespeare is the author of both. They both also use metaphors to explain the stories. The purpose of Sonnet 73 is explaining his belief of old age. The first quatrain, which employs the metaphor of the winter day, emphasizes the harshness and emptiness of old age. In the second quatrain, the metaphor shifts to that of twilight, and emphasizes not the chill of old age, but rather the gradual fading of the light of youth, as “black night” takes away the light “by and by”. He is basically explaining the themes of his old age and what actually happens. In this particular sonnet, he towards his metaphors towards “love.” Shakespeare also uses the metaphor “two blushing pilgrims” within Romeo and Juliet. Shakespeare compares their lips as two blushing pilgrims due to they are both excited to kiss each other which causes “blushing” and he used the word “pilgrims” due to they are both kind of new to the whole “love” idea. In Act 1. Scene 5, the two are young and ready to love, but Sonnet 73 is the total opposite because now he is in his elderly age and have loved. Within the three, they play a huge role within each part. The prologue gives us foreshadowing; Act 1. Scene 5 gives the reader the beginning of something new “love”, and sonnet 73 talks about old age. Therefore, they all sort of compare to one another due to they are all explaining an important event in one’s life.
D'Andrea Smith English l Rodrigue November 24, 2013
The prologue (summary in a story) in Romeo and Juliet is set up in a sonnet ( a stanza which have fourteen lines) both are the same because they're sonnets. The two sonnets have different meanings. The sonnets have many different figurative languages in both of the sonnets.
Alexis Pierce English Pre AP W. Rodrigue 24 November 2013
This chapter is very confusing to understand. I'm not sure what the assignment is asking us to do with these sonnets. But I have made a conclusion that all of them tie into together. They deliver a message without directly stating the issue. It's main focus seems to be the themes and relationships between each.
As previously stated, this chapter was very confusing. It is probably the most confusing of them all so far although it is confusing, I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way. They all set up the setting and characters in the stories that follow them. This is the main purpose of the prologue in "Romeo and Juliet." It allows the reader to have inside information on the actual play. This allows the reader to know things to help make the play easier to read and understand. The prologue in selections like this, which are plays, they can be more important than when they are found in books. In a written out play, you don't get descriptions of characters or their roles. The prologue will give you a list of the characters with their names and the roles they play in the play.
It was confusing to me too. I don't know if this is right but I think he meant to describe what form of sonnet each one is ( This helped me alot: http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm )
The chapter talked about Shakespearean sonnets so I guessed that's what he meant. Everyone seems to be confused with this one.
Jessie Smith English 1 5th Rodrigue 24 November 2013
Each prologue tells their own story that's important to the author. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespeare said that there will be a tragedy. This means that love hurts and isn't always the best thing, even though it is an amazing thing. Each prologue either foreshadows something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, which is the side that's never told.
Lexie Plyler English I Pre AP Mr. W. Rodrigue 24 November 2013
PROLOGUE Two households, both alike in dignity, (a) In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, (b) From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, (a) Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. (b) From forth the fatal loins of these two foes (c) A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; (d) Whole misadventured piteous overthrows (c) Do with their death bury their parents' strife. (d) The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, (e) And the continuance of their parents' rage, (f) Which, but their children's end, nought could remove, (e) Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage; (f) The which if you with patient ears attend, (g) What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend. (g)
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is known as a Shakespearean Sonnet (or English Sonnet) because of the rhyming pattern. It is made of 3 quatrains (sets of 4 lines) with a couplet (set of 2 lines) at the end. This is the prologue, which basically sums up the whole story of Romeo and Juliet)
Two Blushing Pilgrims ROMEO (taking JULIET’s hand) If I profane with my unworthiest hand This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this: My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss. JULIET Good pilgrim, you do wrong your hand too much, Which mannerly devotion shows in this, For saints have hands that pilgrims' hands do touch, And palm to palm is holy palmers' kiss. ROMEO Have not saints lips, and holy palmers too? JULIET Ay, pilgrim, lips that they must use in prayer. ROMEO O, then, dear saint, let lips do what hands do. They pray; grant thou, lest faith turn to despair. JULIET Saints do not move, though grant for prayers' sake. ROMEO Then move not, while my prayer’s effect I take. -Kisses her- Thus from my lips, by thine, my sin is purged. JULIET Then have my lips the sin that they have took. ROMEO Sin from thy lips? O trespass sweetly urged! Give me my sin again. -They kiss again-
In "Two Blushing Pilgrims," Romeo is hitting on Juliet and trying to get a kiss. He speaks of how his hand is unworthy to touch hers, and instead of holding hands they should kiss. Juliet explains to him that holding hands is almost like a kiss, but he gives her a kiss anyways. Now, she is carrying his "sin," and he gives her another kiss to retrieve it. This is the beginning of their love, which the prologue included and summarized.
That time of year thou mayst in me behold (a) When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang (b) Upon those boughs which shake against the cold, (a) Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang. (b) In me thou seest the twilight of such day (c) As after sunset fadeth in the west, (d) Which by and by black night doth take away, (c) Death's second self, that seals up all in rest. (d) In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire (f) That on the ashes of his youth doth lie, (e) As the death-bed whereon it must expire (f) Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by. (e) This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong, (g) To love that well which thou must leave ere long. (g)
This poem is a Shakespearean or English sonnet just like the prologue of Romeo and Juliet. It includes 3 quatrains which alternate rhymes and a couplet at the end. (abab cdcd efgf gg)
(My apologies for any mistakes. I don't think I quite understood the directions)
I find the thses are telling the story and the message in different ways. It is kind of like a summory, like in Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespear uses it as a way to forshadow the story for the reader. ( Honestly I had a hard time understanding this and I am still kind of confused)
As previously stated, this chapter was very confusing. It is probably the most confusing of them all so far although it is confusing, I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way.Sonnet 73 is also a Shakespearean sonnet that is divided up where the first four lines are a sentence, the second four lines are a sentence, the third four lines are a sentence, and the last two lines are a sentence. They all set up the setting and characters in the stories that follow them. This is the main purpose of the prologue in "Romeo and Juliet." It allows the reader to have inside information. They either foreshadow something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, the side that's never told. (I'll be honest in saying I didn't completely understand this one.)
Tristan Kraemer Pre Ap English 1 W. Rodrigue 24 November 2013
Some examples of poetic sonnet forms are: Petrarchan Spenserian Shakespearian
(source: http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm )
Prologue- Two households both alike in dignity, (a rhyme) In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, (b rhyme) From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, (a rhyme) Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. (b rhyme) From forth the fatal loins of these two foes (c rhyme) A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; (d rhyme) Whole mis-adventured piteous overthrows (c rhyme) Do with their death bury their parents' strife. (d rhyme) The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, (e rhyme) And the continuance of their parents' rage, (f rhyme) Which, but their children's end, nought could remove, (e rhyme) Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage; (f rhyme) The which if you with patient ears attend, (g rhyme) What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend (g rhyme)
This sonnet is known as a Shakespearean sonnet because of its rhyme scheme pattern. Shakespearean sonnets tend to have 3 quatrains of rhymes that alternate and ends in a couplet. The pattern is usually: abab (quatrain) cdcd (quatrain) efgf (quatrain) gg (couplet) Sonnet 73 also has this exact rhyme scheme.
That time of year thou mayst in me behold (a rhyme) When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang (b rhyme) Upon those boughs which shake against the cold, (a rhyme) Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang. (b rhyme ) In me thou seest the twilight of such day (c rhyme) As after sunset fadeth in the west, (d rhyme) Which by and by black night doth take away, (c rhyme) Death's second self, that seals up all in rest.(d rhyme) In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire (e rhyme) That on the ashes of his youth doth lie, (f rhyme) As the death-bed whereon it must expire (e rhyme) Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by.(f rhyme) This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong,(g rhyme) To love that well which thou must leave ere long. (g rhyme)
Along with the prologue of Romeo and Juliet, this is a Shakespearean sonnet because of the rhyme scheme.
The prologue helps the reader to use context clues and analyze the passage to figure out what happens next. So you are basically using foreshadowing to help a reader find out what will happen without reading the actual passage. I personally think that the foreshadowing ruins the book because its no longer a surprise it just bores you.
Luke Kliebert English 1 5th W. Rodrigue 24 November 2013
The prologues each have their own story. That's important to the author. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespeare wrote that there will be a tragedy. Each prologue foreshadows something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a another side of a story, which is the side that's never told. I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way. They deliver a message without directly stating the issue.
The poloogue in this story helps the reader analyze the whole selection. It helps the reader by telling them what is happining in the story. It helps you know how the story will go from there. Its not really good for some people because most of the times it tells you whats going to happen in the story and its kind of boring from that point to the readers because you already know whats going to happen.
The prologue in the story helps the reader know what is going on in the book before they really get into it. Some people don't like it because it throws them off from the beginning. Others like it because they can analyze the story and get an idea of what will happen from reading it. The prologue is kind of like a summary of the book before you even start the book. Most people really don't read the prologue because it doesn't interest them and they only want to read their book.
Karlie Trosclair English 1- 5th period Rodrigue 24 November 2013
Each of these have their own meaning and tell their own stories. They each give a brief summary of the story before you read it. They are foreshadowing the stories that are about to take place. For example in the prologue of Romeo and Juliet they foreshadow that there will be a tragedy at the end by using the term star crossed lovers. Sorry I got my days confused.
Evan Gaudet English 1 2nd W. Rodrigue 26 November 2013
The prologue in this story helps the reader analyze the whole selection. It helps the reader by telling them what is happening in the story. It helps the reader to know how the story will go from there. It’s not really interesting for some people because most of the times it tells you what’s going to happen in the story and it’s kind of the same old thing as every other story. The small clues that point to the readers because you already know what’s going to happen next in the story which makes it less interesting.
the three are all very simialar. I have noticed that much of the same things are repeated in each one and concluded that they are all sonnets. i confess i am a little confused about this and dont understand so i tried my best.
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23 November 2013
The prologue of each of these have a purpose to the whole form of the story or things it stands for. They each have a certain meaning and tell the story of each one without even reading it. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, it tells how the story contains star-crossed lovers and so you knew that tradegy was gonna come in the story. This is also what the prolougues for the other stories do.
Great Job Alissa.
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23, November 2013
Each of these tell their own separate story, important to the author themselves. Just like in Romeo and Juliet's prologue, how Shakespeare said there will be tragedy, it means that love hurts and is not always the greatest thing but it can do great things. Each of the sonnets tell a separate story with a separate meaning to teach a different lesson. They either foreshadow something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, the side that's never told. (I'll be honest in saying I didn't completely understand this one.)
I really don't understand this topic. They do seem like to talk about the same things just in different ways.
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24 November 2013
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is a Shakespearean sonnet. It is divided up by the first four lines, the second four lines, the third four lines, and the last two. It tells you that the setting of the book is Verona, that Romeo and Juliet are star-crossed lovers, and that they will both die at the end. Sonnet 73 is also a Shakespearean sonnet that is divided up where the first four lines are a sentence, the second four lines are a sentence, the third four lines are a sentence, and the last two lines are a sentence.
The Blushing Pilgrims scene is basically regection. But of course Romeo gets his way. In both things required to read, I noticed that they're very similar. I didn't understand what to do with this topic very well, I hope it's acceptable to say that.
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24 November, 2013
The prologue basically tells you about the setting and plot of the story in a sonnet. Each few lines is an act in the play, telling you what's going to be happening for the "star-crossed lovers", Romeo and Juliet. (Honestly, I didn't truly understand the exact answer you'd have wanted.)
This might help a bit: http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm
DeleteI didn't understand AT ALL. But I guessed this is what he meant. Then again I don't know
Katie Landry
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24 November 2013
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet, "Two Blushing Pilgrims"(1.5), and Sonnet 73 all have things in common. The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is set up by three sets of four lines then one set of two lines. The prologue from Romeo and Juliet foreshadows the entire play, using the term star-crossed lovers. It is basically saying the Romeo and Juliet were not destined to match up, and the play will end in tragedy. "Two Blushing Pilgrims"(1.5) is not set up the same way as the prologue of Romeo and Juliet, it is a conversation between Romeo and Juliet. It is the beginning of Romeo and Juliet's relationship, and is the scene where they have their first kiss. This scene goes hand and hand with the prologue of Romeo and Juliet because it is foreshadowed in it. Sonnet 73 is set up the same way as Romeo and Juliet. This sonnet is similar to the prologue of Romeo and Juliet because it foreshadows in the same way. It speaks about death, love, and how they tie in together. All three of these are similar.
Keep up the great work Katie.
DeleteThe prologue of Romeo and Juliet is basically a brief overview of the play. It is an example of foreshadowing. "Two Blushing Pilgrims" (1.5) is a part of the play Romeo and Juliet. It's the first time they converse with one another. Sonnet 73 is more related to The Prologue than to "Two Blushing Pilgrims." Sonnet 73 foreshadows the theme of "aging." (If we're being honest, I have no idea of what the question is for this topic. I had some trouble understanding it.)
ReplyDeleteVery impressive.
DeleteLexi Bourgeois
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Rodrigue
24 November 2013
Although they are all three different stories discussed, they are very similar due to them being sonnets. Romeo and Juliet especially due to the prologue describing them being star-crossed lovers who will eventually die for each other because if one dies, they both should. All of them provide the plots and setting which also include foreshadowing and flashbacks of events that will happen or have happened. All three stories teach lessons through their themes. Therefore, they are all three very similar.
Katelyn Belote
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November 24, 2013
PROLOGUE
Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows
Do with their death bury their parents' strife.
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,
And the continuance of their parents' rage,
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;
The which if you with patient ears attend,
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend.
Sonnet 73-
“That time of year thou mayst in me behold
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruined choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou see'st the twilight of such day
As after sunset fadeth in the west;
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death's second self, that seals up all in rest.
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire,
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the death-bed, whereon it must expire,
Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by.
This thou perceiv'st, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well, which thou must leave ere long.”
ACT 1- Scene 5
ROMEO [To JULIET.] If I profane with my unworthiest hand
This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this:
My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand
To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss.
JULIET - Good pilgrim, you do wrong your hand too much,
Which mannerly devotion shows in this;
For saints have hands that pilgrims' hands do touch,
And palm to palm is holy palmers' kiss.
ROMEO - Have not saints lips, and holy palmers too?
JULIET - Ay, pilgrim, lips that they must use in prayer.
ROMEO - O, then, dear saint, let lips do what hands do;
They pray — grant thou, lest faith turn to despair.
JULIET - Saints do not move, though grant for prayers' sake.
ROMEO - Then move not, while my prayer's effect I take. [Kisses her.]
In Romeo and Juliet… the prologue, “Two Blushing Pilgrims”, and Sonnet 73, they are both
Shakespeare’s sonnets. Shakespeare is the author of both. They both also use metaphors to explain the stories. The purpose of Sonnet 73 is explaining his belief of old age. The first quatrain, which employs the metaphor of the winter day, emphasizes the harshness and emptiness of old age. In the second quatrain, the metaphor shifts to that of twilight, and emphasizes not the chill of old age, but rather the gradual fading of the light of youth, as “black night” takes away the light “by and by”. He is basically explaining the themes of his old age and what actually happens. In this particular sonnet, he towards his metaphors towards “love.” Shakespeare also uses the metaphor “two blushing pilgrims” within Romeo and Juliet. Shakespeare compares their lips as two blushing pilgrims due to they are both excited to kiss each other which causes “blushing” and he used the word “pilgrims” due to they are both kind of new to the whole “love” idea. In Act 1. Scene 5, the two are young and ready to love, but Sonnet 73 is the total opposite because now he is in his elderly age and have loved. Within the three, they play a huge role within each part. The prologue gives us foreshadowing; Act 1. Scene 5 gives the reader the beginning of something new “love”, and sonnet 73 talks about old age. Therefore, they all sort of compare to one another due to they are all explaining an important event in one’s life.
Good job. Way to use detail!
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Rodrigue
November 24, 2013
The prologue (summary in a story) in Romeo and Juliet is set up in a sonnet ( a stanza which have fourteen lines) both are the same because they're sonnets. The two sonnets have different meanings. The sonnets have many different figurative languages in both of the sonnets.
Alexis Pierce
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W. Rodrigue
24 November 2013
This chapter is very confusing to understand. I'm not sure what the assignment is asking us to do with these sonnets. But I have made a conclusion that all of them tie into together. They deliver a message without directly stating the issue. It's main focus seems to be the themes and relationships between each.
I think he meant to describe which form of sonnet each one was http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm and then analyze how it all ties together.
Delete....but I'm not sure, because the Blushing Pilgrims one wasn't even a sonnet. That's what I did anyways. I hope it was right because it took FOREVER.
It was super confusing, but you did a good job.
DeleteAs previously stated, this chapter was very confusing. It is probably the most confusing of them all so far although it is confusing, I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way. They all set up the setting and characters in the stories that follow them. This is the main purpose of the prologue in "Romeo and Juliet." It allows the reader to have inside information on the actual play. This allows the reader to know things to help make the play easier to read and understand. The prologue in selections like this, which are plays, they can be more important than when they are found in books. In a written out play, you don't get descriptions of characters or their roles. The prologue will give you a list of the characters with their names and the roles they play in the play.
ReplyDeleteIt was confusing to me too. I don't know if this is right but I think he meant to describe what form of sonnet each one is ( This helped me alot: http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm )
DeleteThe chapter talked about Shakespearean sonnets so I guessed that's what he meant. Everyone seems to be confused with this one.
Really good job, it was very confusing too.
DeleteJessie Smith
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Rodrigue
24 November 2013
Each prologue tells their own story that's important to the author. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespeare said that there will be a tragedy. This means that love hurts and isn't always the best thing, even though it is an amazing thing. Each prologue either foreshadows something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, which is the side that's never told.
I didn't understand this one
Lexie Plyler
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Mr. W. Rodrigue
24 November 2013
PROLOGUE
Two households, both alike in dignity, (a)
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, (b)
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, (a)
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. (b)
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes (c)
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; (d)
Whole misadventured piteous overthrows (c)
Do with their death bury their parents' strife. (d)
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, (e)
And the continuance of their parents' rage, (f)
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove, (e)
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage; (f)
The which if you with patient ears attend, (g)
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend. (g)
The prologue of Romeo and Juliet is known as a Shakespearean Sonnet (or English Sonnet) because of the rhyming pattern. It is made of 3 quatrains (sets of 4 lines) with a couplet (set of 2 lines) at the end. This is the prologue, which basically sums up the whole story of Romeo and Juliet)
Two Blushing Pilgrims
ROMEO
(taking JULIET’s hand) If I profane with my unworthiest hand
This holy shrine, the gentle sin is this:
My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand
To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss.
JULIET
Good pilgrim, you do wrong your hand too much,
Which mannerly devotion shows in this,
For saints have hands that pilgrims' hands do touch,
And palm to palm is holy palmers' kiss.
ROMEO
Have not saints lips, and holy palmers too?
JULIET
Ay, pilgrim, lips that they must use in prayer.
ROMEO
O, then, dear saint, let lips do what hands do.
They pray; grant thou, lest faith turn to despair.
JULIET
Saints do not move, though grant for prayers' sake.
ROMEO
Then move not, while my prayer’s effect I take.
-Kisses her-
Thus from my lips, by thine, my sin is purged.
JULIET
Then have my lips the sin that they have took.
ROMEO
Sin from thy lips? O trespass sweetly urged!
Give me my sin again.
-They kiss again-
In "Two Blushing Pilgrims," Romeo is hitting on Juliet and trying to get a kiss. He speaks of how his hand is unworthy to touch hers, and instead of holding hands they should kiss. Juliet explains to him that holding hands is almost like a kiss, but he gives her a kiss anyways. Now, she is carrying his "sin," and he gives her another kiss to retrieve it. This is the beginning of their love, which the prologue included and summarized.
That time of year thou mayst in me behold (a)
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang (b)
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold, (a)
Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang. (b)
In me thou seest the twilight of such day (c)
As after sunset fadeth in the west, (d)
Which by and by black night doth take away, (c)
Death's second self, that seals up all in rest. (d)
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire (f)
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie, (e)
As the death-bed whereon it must expire (f)
Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by. (e)
This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong, (g)
To love that well which thou must leave ere long. (g)
This poem is a Shakespearean or English sonnet just like the prologue of Romeo and Juliet. It includes 3 quatrains which alternate rhymes and a couplet at the end.
(abab
cdcd
efgf
gg)
(My apologies for any mistakes. I don't think I quite understood the directions)
I find the thses are telling the story and the message in different ways. It is kind of like a summory, like in Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespear uses it as a way to forshadow the story for the reader. ( Honestly I had a hard time understanding this and I am still kind of confused)
ReplyDeleteAs previously stated, this chapter was very confusing. It is probably the most confusing of them all so far although it is confusing, I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way.Sonnet 73 is also a Shakespearean sonnet that is divided up where the first four lines are a sentence, the second four lines are a sentence, the third four lines are a sentence, and the last two lines are a sentence. They all set up the setting and characters in the stories that follow them. This is the main purpose of the prologue in "Romeo and Juliet." It allows the reader to have inside information. They either foreshadow something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a separate side of a story, the side that's never told. (I'll be honest in saying I didn't completely understand this one.)
ReplyDeleteTristan Kraemer
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W. Rodrigue
24 November 2013
Some examples of poetic sonnet forms are:
Petrarchan
Spenserian
Shakespearian
(source: http://www.sonnets.org/basicforms.htm )
Prologue-
Two households both alike in dignity, (a rhyme)
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene, (b rhyme)
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, (a rhyme)
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. (b rhyme)
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes (c rhyme)
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life; (d rhyme)
Whole mis-adventured piteous overthrows (c rhyme)
Do with their death bury their parents' strife. (d rhyme)
The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love, (e rhyme)
And the continuance of their parents' rage, (f rhyme)
Which, but their children's end, nought could remove, (e rhyme)
Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage; (f rhyme)
The which if you with patient ears attend, (g rhyme)
What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend (g rhyme)
This sonnet is known as a Shakespearean sonnet because of its rhyme scheme pattern. Shakespearean sonnets tend to have 3 quatrains of rhymes that alternate and ends in a couplet. The pattern is usually:
abab (quatrain)
cdcd (quatrain)
efgf (quatrain)
gg (couplet)
Sonnet 73 also has this exact rhyme scheme.
That time of year thou mayst in me behold (a rhyme)
When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang (b rhyme)
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold, (a rhyme)
Bare ruin'd choirs, where late the sweet birds sang. (b rhyme )
In me thou seest the twilight of such day (c rhyme)
As after sunset fadeth in the west, (d rhyme)
Which by and by black night doth take away, (c rhyme)
Death's second self, that seals up all in rest.(d rhyme)
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire (e rhyme)
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie, (f rhyme)
As the death-bed whereon it must expire (e rhyme)
Consumed with that which it was nourish'd by.(f rhyme)
This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong,(g rhyme)
To love that well which thou must leave ere long. (g rhyme)
Along with the prologue of Romeo and Juliet, this is a Shakespearean sonnet because of the rhyme scheme.
The prologue helps the reader to use context clues and analyze the passage to figure out what happens next. So you are basically using foreshadowing to help a reader find out what will happen without reading the actual passage. I personally think that the foreshadowing ruins the book because its no longer a surprise it just bores you.
ReplyDeleteLuke Kliebert
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W. Rodrigue
24 November 2013
The prologues each have their own story. That's important to the author. In Romeo and Juliet's prologue, Shakespeare wrote that there will be a tragedy. Each prologue foreshadows something, such as Romeo and Juliet's prologue, or they tell a another side of a story, which is the side that's never told. I think all three of the selections discussed are similar in their own way. They deliver a message without directly stating the issue.
The poloogue in this story helps the reader analyze the whole selection. It helps the reader by telling them what is happining in the story. It helps you know how the story will go from there. Its not really good for some people because most of the times it tells you whats going to happen in the story and its kind of boring from that point to the readers because you already know whats going to happen.
ReplyDeleteThe prologue in the story helps the reader know what is going on in the book before they really get into it. Some people don't like it because it throws them off from the beginning. Others like it because they can analyze the story and get an idea of what will happen from reading it. The prologue is kind of like a summary of the book before you even start the book. Most people really don't read the prologue because it doesn't interest them and they only want to read their book.
ReplyDeleteKarlie Trosclair
ReplyDeleteEnglish 1- 5th period
Rodrigue
24 November 2013
Each of these have their own meaning and tell their own stories. They each give a brief summary of the story before you read it. They are foreshadowing the stories that are about to take place. For example in the prologue of Romeo and Juliet they foreshadow that there will be a tragedy at the end by using the term star crossed lovers. Sorry I got my days confused.
Evan Gaudet
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W. Rodrigue
26 November 2013
The prologue in this story helps the reader analyze the whole selection. It helps the reader by telling them what is happening in the story. It helps the reader to know how the story will go from there. It’s not really interesting for some people because most of the times it tells you what’s going to happen in the story and it’s kind of the same old thing as every other story. The small clues that point to the readers because you already know what’s going to happen next in the story which makes it less interesting.